{"id":86,"date":"2014-06-24T08:25:11","date_gmt":"2014-06-24T15:25:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bellevuecollege.edu\/chemistry\/?page_id=86"},"modified":"2022-02-21T01:06:00","modified_gmt":"2022-02-21T09:06:00","slug":"advice","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.bellevuecollege.edu\/chemistry\/summer-intensive-ochem\/advice\/","title":{"rendered":"Advice for Summer Intensive Organic Chem Students"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Questions asked at the end of Chem 261 \u2013 Summer 2011<br>Question 1: What advice would you share with future students of this intensive organic chemistry course?<br>Question 2: What do you wish you knew about this course before starting it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Question 1: What advice would you share with future students of this intensive organic chemistry course?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Do the exercises at the end, study with other people, utilize the web, eat breakfast.<\/li><li>Read ahead and do all practice problems.<\/li><li>If you like to sleep, don\u2019t take it.<\/li><li>Do not take more than one other class with the intensive and try to get as much sleep as possible.<\/li><li>Get started on the study aids right away! They are helpful for the end, but would have been more helpful if I\u2019d done them as soon as assigned.<\/li><li>When taking this class, buy the BIGGER model kit. It is easier to see how the molecules move and gives a really good visual. Also, don\u2019t get behind! Keep up with the work given.<\/li><li>Study ahead of time and never get behind!<\/li><li>Do the exercises and understand them after each class corresponding to the sections covered. EVERY TIME I did this, I got 30\/30 on quizzes. When I didn\u2019t, I got 24-28\u2019s.<\/li><li>Be prepared to not have a life that doesn\u2019t include o chem. And the more you convince\/believe\/grow to enjoy it, the better you\u2019ll do.<\/li><li>It\u2019s a lot of fun if you spend a lot of time understanding the material. Make sure you ask questions right away if you have any. Do as many practice problems as you can.<\/li><li>Just study hard and read the activities before coming to class so they should understand what\u2019s going on in class.<\/li><li>I advise studying with a partner\/group and doing the exercises from the workbook.<\/li><li>Try and stay ahead, that way you won\u2019t fall behind. Read ahead. Use weekends to your advantage!<\/li><li>Learn a way to absorb everything as fast as possible. Do lots of practice problems.<\/li><li>Go over reactions and mechanisms many times.<\/li><li>Be prepared to spend the full three weeks only during ochem, in school and at home for many hours. Flash cards are your best friend because there is a lot of memorization.<\/li><li>Understand the concepts \u2013 do not memorize! If you know the concepts then you could easily build on it but memorization allows for only so much.<\/li><li>Start looking over the material BEFORE the quarter begins.<\/li><li>Practice practice practice. Reactions and mechanisms! Be sure you can handle it! Takes a lot of time, energy, effort!<\/li><li>Use your time wisely \u2013 read the books with all the chapters before taking this class. Study more on weekends. Do more exercises.<\/li><li>Do the practice problems in the back of each activity.<\/li><li>Buy the books early. Make plenty of time for studying.<\/li><li>Make sure you do the exercises and at least skim through the last chem activity worksheet before coming to the quiz.<\/li><li>This course is doable if you commit to being diligent out of class and complete the exercises. Then review them until you understand what is going on.<\/li><li>Reaction Tree \u2013 write it over and over until memorized, then write in details like syn\/anti\/trans\/cis\/aldehyde\/ketone, etc. The flow chart is worth doing once but not repeating like the tree. Also, do lab stuff in advance on weekends!<\/li><li>Study every day so to not fall behind, and don\u2019t work if possible.<\/li><li>Do the prelabs prior to each week on the weekend otherwise there simply won\u2019t be enough time to memorize anything and you will fall behind.<\/li><li>Keep up with the material and study hard!<\/li><li>Study hard, keep practicing over and over again. Know the concept.<\/li><li>You have to study from day one because a day is like a week in a normal course.<\/li><li>Study daily and never miss a class.<\/li><li>Make sure it\u2019s the only class that you are taking because it requires A LOT of extra study.<\/li><li>I would like to tell them to study every day and read over the chapter before coming to class.<\/li><li>Learn the reactions right away.<\/li><li>Be prepared. Maybe read a little in advance. Freshen your memories about bonds, orbitals, etc. from gen chem. Don\u2019t get behind!<\/li><li>Just knowing going in that you will be focusing all your time on ochem and then it isn\u2019t that bad.<\/li><li>Study reactions a lot and understand the synthesizing problems well.<\/li><li>A nice place to study.<\/li><li>Review general chemistry concepts (i.e., acids and bases)<\/li><li>Four hours after class studying is needed. Do prelabs one week for next week.<\/li><li>Prep labs on weekends, buy book early and work in workbook, read text before class, great notes with evening reviews, ask questions over material you don\u2019t understand immediately.<\/li><li>Get plenty of sleep to pay attention in class.<\/li><li>Be prepared to study a lot!<\/li><li>Study like you are studying for the final EVERY DAY! Ask why, don\u2019t just go with it.<\/li><li>This is my first time taking organic chem and I absolutely love it, but I made some mistakes and I paid the price \u2013 there is time write the labs well in advance. Print the powerpoints and review them right after class \u2013 it helps. Write and rewrite and write again and again, all of the reactions.<\/li><li>Make sure you draw your reaction mechanism and work all the problems in the exercises.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Question 2: What do you wish you knew about this course before starting it?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>That I need to set aside four hrs\/day for pure study, and three hrs\/day for lab write-ups and prelabs<\/li><li>I had no idea it would be this exhausting!<\/li><li>The time it REALLY took to do well in this class. The amount of time spent doing something for this class.<\/li><li>How fast we would actually be covering material! Ha!<\/li><li>Pre-lab structure and expectations so they could be done beforehand.<\/li><li>It\u2019s a lot of memorizing! A different style of learning from gen chem.<\/li><li>I wish I knew it would take so long to drive here.<\/li><li>I might have taken the later lab so I could get more sleep.<\/li><li>That sleeping is an option; not required! : )<\/li><li>To pack my own lunch.<\/li><li>The schedule and how the class would be structured in terms of lecturing: group time ratio.<\/li><li>I\u2019m loving this class and there isn\u2019t anything that I wish I had known first. I just wish that I could enjoy the learning and not be so concerned about trying to get the A. It is a REALLY fun class and I like the intensive atmosphere.<\/li><li>I wish I knew beforehand that I had to buy a POGIL workbook and we were going to be doing the problems in groups every day.<\/li><li>How much work it is! I knew it would be work but the postlab add on a lot more after a 7 hour day and having to study and do practice problems.<\/li><li>I wish I knew there are so much memorization involved.<\/li><li>That this course is going to be hard especially in summer! I wish I would have more knowledge on acid\/base\/conformational isomers beforehand.<\/li><li>How to tell the difference between a strong base\/weak base and how crazy hard it is for a first timer taking the class. Thanks for an amazing class! I didn\u2019t think I could learn this much in three weeks!<\/li><li>A better understanding of general chemistry.<\/li><li>I wish I knew the material! But realistically I wish I knew how to study the reactions before having to learn them all at once. But they weren\u2019t too bad!<\/li><li>I wish I knew that writing out examples multiple times worked best for studying.<\/li><li>Good places to study, online reference sites, etc. Not much I can think of. It was good to know ahead of time how many hours to put into the class (6 hours\/day!) I actually had many nights where I put more than 6 hours in to learn everything I needed to know for the next day.<\/li><li>I wish I knew this class would require so much more time to study outside of class.<\/li><li>How much time it takes to do the pre\/post labs every night. I would advise doing all the prelabs in the first couple of nights so that you have more time for studying as the material gets harder.<\/li><li>How much time it would require outside of the classroom, and how important it is to manage your time both in and out of the classroom.<\/li><li>It really requires a lot of effort and time, and workload is high!<\/li><li>How it goes by so fast!<\/li><li>I wish I reviewed some of my general chemistry like sp orbital stuff \u2013 it would have made things more clear at the beginning and I would have started off with a better \u201cbase\u201d understanding.<\/li><li>How tired I would be from the 7:30 a.m. labs.<\/li><li>I knew it was going to be very intense so I wish I reviewed my gen chem before I started the class.<\/li><li>I wish I knew the techniques that I should use to study for all the quizzes.<\/li><li>I wish that somebody told me the advice that I have in the previous question!<\/li><li>Name of the books. How many tests we\u2019d have.<\/li><li>Exactly how many reactions we needed to learn.<\/li><li>I would have liked to know how lab would be structured (i.e., that the first quarter is lab technique based). Then I would have read on those techniques before the quarter started to be more comfortable performing them in lab for the first time.<\/li><li>Some students tried to get by without the workbook. Bad idea!<\/li><li>Though fast pace was expected, didn\u2019t realize postlabs were going to be given for every lab. So time after class besides studying takes a long time.<\/li><li>Everything can be on any test. Memorization of organic chem takes more repetition than typical subjects.<\/li><li>This class is very hard and requires a lot of memorization.<\/li><li>Mechanisms and reactions.<\/li><li>It\u2019s harder than it looks.<\/li><li>I wish I had a list of all the reactions on day one because one or two days just isn\u2019t enough time for me to memorize that stuff.<\/li><li>The reactants.<\/li><li>I tried to memorize everything but then I realized understanding it would be the only real way to succeed. It\u2019s hard to catch up in this class.<\/li><li>Nothing, really. I appreciated the early email saying to study six hours a day outside class and that is exactly what I did (more on weekends).<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Questions asked at the end of Chem 261 \u2013 Summer 2011Question 1: What advice would you share with future students of this intensive organic chemistry course?Question 2: What do you wish you knew about this course before starting it? 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